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A better way

on behalf of the children

and the facts of their lives

A broken social system is not a suitable environment in which to raise children

A healthy and well adjusted child requires a healthy and well adjusted environment in which to grow

There are no better educated minds in regards the prevention and survival of sexual abuse than those who have both prevented and survived.

Community Cabinet Toowoomba :: I love the ideas of equality and harmony, of democracy and justice - they sound like terrific ideas.


Hi I was just penning this when I came back across your article on the "apology".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8041421.stm

They have so many ways of saying "Its not us. The Government did it"

"However, is it not also the case that often it is the ideological manipulation of religion, sometimes for political ends, that is the real catalyst for tension and division, and at times even violence in society?"


"respect for religion"
Does this include the genocide in Canada - the deaths of 50,000 children or Alaska?

This part seems almost right
"Certainly, the contradiction of tensions and divisions between the followers of different religious traditions, sadly, cannot be denied."

and this
"Some assert that religion is necessarily a cause of division in our world and so they argue that the lesser attention given to religion in the public sphere the better," he said."

How do you say look at all the good work we do - it was not us - it was someone else (I think mostly government)
"he argued that religion was a force for good, but its "manipulation" caused divisions and even violence. "

So how do you apologise for the deaths of 50,000 children - wait until there is a swine flu scare across the globe and in the midst of that you say this is cause for "deep regret" or you could say I'm dam n sure I know how, but anyway you lot are getting scre wed over once again."

JohnB

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September 1, 2009

http://www.september12009.com/

and then I thought of my friend Ken and I thought we should get together to see what we can do about this.

http://www.youtube.com/user/molestedcatholic and then there is the covering up at government level - thats a Minister for Police, a Police Commissioner and a couple of 'faithful' subordinates
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13wwuU1NE9E

add to that a Prime Minister
The Prime Minister of Australia on Islamic teachings on wife beating and rap e.

"Under no circumstances is se xual violence permissible or acceptable in Australia - under no circumstances."

"Australia will not tolerate these sort of remarks. They don't belong in modern Australia, and he should stand up, repudiate them and apologise."

The Prime Minister of Australia on Catholocism and children sexual ly abused and rape d by Catholic clergy.

"This is a matter for the church and I respect the internal judgements of the church. I donít stand outside the church and provide them with public lectures in terms of how they should behave..."

Australia does not tolerate these sort of remarks. They don't belong in modern Australia, and the Prime Minister should stand up, repudiate them and apologise.

There is no excuse for sexu al abuse according to our law and government.

We are told we are all equal before the law.

The exceptions are found when you have been sexual ly abused by Catholic clergy.

"This is a matter for the church and I respect the internal judgements of the church. I donít stand outside the church and provide them with public lectures in terms of how they should behave..."

Kevin Rudd, Prime Minister of Australia, 17 July 2008.

http://www.pm.gov.au/media/Interview/2008/interview_0363.cfm

read more ... http://www.mybrokensociety.com/questions101

then you add every State Premier with

http://www.september12009.com/index.php?id=36

because the Governor General will not intervene due to "protocol".

You would think some of that might interest some newspapers or blogs here - nah - thats old hat - our Police Commissioner here in Queensland had it all tidied up about 10 years ago - there was a bit of a spike and they have since let kids give evidence it seems - getting screw d over in Canada has been a breeze in comparison to here - we at least had a public row about what you could say on a t-shirt - I love the ideas of equality and harmony, of democracy and justice - they sound like terrific ideas.

JohnB
 



On the sexual abuse, exploitation & deception of children

For those who have and for those who want to 'Hit the Wall'

There is no excuse for sexual abuse according to our law and government except when the abuse has been carried out by Catholic clergy.

"This is a matter for the church and I respect the internal judgements of the church. I don’t stand outside the church and provide them with public lectures in terms of how they should behave..."

Kevin Rudd, Prime Minister of Australia, 17 July 2008.

http://www.pm.gov.au/media/Interview/2008/interview_0363.cfm

read more ... http://www.mybrokensociety.com/questions101

This is perhaps the most horrific act of abandonment perpetrated against the children of a specific religion by an Australian head of State and is recorded in our history for perpetuity as being made by Kevin Rudd on 17 July 2008, when he spoke in regards those affected by the sexual abuses carried out by Catholic clergy.http://www.pm.gov.au/media/Interview/2008/interview_0363.cfm

This is a deeply flawed and invalid response both morally and legally which includes all victims of clergy abuse being referred over to the leader of the Catholic Church or the respective leaders of other Churches or Religions when quite clearly sexual abuse by clergy is a phenomena found in many Churches and religions and it simply is not within the Prime Ministers realm to pass responsibility for those sexually abused by Catholic and non-Catholic clergy over to the Catholic church or anyone else.

read more ...

Is it any wonder our children are confused?

No wonder our children are confused - if we continually send confusing messages to our children then it is us who is acting irrationally when we demand the right to sanction them for acting in the same way we do, or in the same way our Government services do.

No amount of resources, education, laws, treatments or levels of incarceration and sanctions can educate a child to function both successfully and rationally in a society when the very society which is demanding that is unable itself to function at the levels demanded. There is no rational response to such an irrational situation.

Is it any wonder so many are confused?

Government and our religions are unable to provide and implement successful strategies in regards sexual abuses by clergy and other in the community.

Government and our religions repeatedly and stubbornly refuse to consult with the victims of these abuses by clergy and others in the community and their carers and advocates.

Is it any wonder so many are abused and re-abused?

How can they expect our children to act in a more adult and responsible manner, a manner which is above the examples set by our Governments and religious.

How irrational and foolish are we when we use sanctions against those who are unable to perform on demand at a higher level than those applying the sanctions.

Is it any wonder our children think we are foolhardy and stupid?

Of course we can always sanction our children severely for saying that we got it wrong. We can also sanction them for getting it wrong themselves in a confused world. Their need to survive and remain accepted as children will simply cause them to cede to those sanctions. This simply shows that if you beat a child hard enough and demand that he agree with you they must if they simply want to be loved by their parents and elders. If they want to ever experience the love of those who sanction they simply have no choice but to cede and conform to the power held over them - this use of power proves nothing other than acknowledging the fact that you can force someone into submission. It in no way proves your are on the right track.

Quite simply if these men genuinely had the ear of God as they say, it simply would not have taken 500 years as in the case of Mr Galilei and the shape of the earth, nor would it take very long to resolve the sexual abuse issue if they simply had 10 seconds with God.

It is clear that they simply do not have that line to Jesus Christ because quite simply if they did they would act differently.

Check these other related sites: Molested Catholics | September 1 2009 | TFYQA | My Broken Society